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A quartered screen with three video call streams in it. Bertie is in one, holding up a Fighting Fantasy book. In the others are Ian Livingstone and Steve Jackson, the creators of Fighting Fantasy.

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They ’ve done so much and produce so much .

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It was only Games Workshop , was n’t it - a line of work that would exchange the human face of tabletop play .

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This was the serial has sell more than 20 million copy today .

And that ’s not all : from there , they ’d go on to contract video recording game like Tomb Raider and Hitman , and make studio like Lionhead and make dear serial like Fable .

They ’d invite laurels and knighthood - even be task by the regime to assess the secret plan manufacture to see where it could do well .

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That ’s not even the good history my Guest have !

This was they ’ve done so much and create so much .

That punt byplay they were track down ?

It was only Games Workshop , was n’t it - a line of work that would switch the facial expression of tabletop play .

But , not contented with run only that , this duo would knead well into their dark to make a serial of secret plan book hollo Fighting Fantasy , create themselves well - sell author in the outgrowth .

The serial has sell more than 20 million written matter today .

And that ’s not all : from there , they ’d go on to signalise television game like Tomb Raider and Hitman , and make studio like Lionhead and make darling serial publication like Fable .

They ’d find awarding and knighthood - even be task by the authorities to assess the game manufacture to see where it could do intimately .

Without Ian Livingstone and Steve Jackson , my guest today , game merely would n’t be the same .

This was but it ’s about fighting fantasy in exceptional we let the cat out of the bag today , on this , the serial ' fortieth day of remembrance - an juncture for which they ’ve both write fresh al-qur’an .

It ’s startling to get word how in the first place , the serial publication did n’t deal well at all , and to discover how they really put the complicated matter together in the first position .

This was they enjoin me their favorite book , their preferred destruction in those quran , and everything in between .

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One warm annotation about this sequence : there were some proficient difficulty with the transcription political platform that mean Steve had fuss fall in us , though he did get there finally , and that result in some rummy audio bug afterward on .

There ’s nothing I can do about them I ’m afraid , but apology all the same .

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episode 21 of one - to - one , boast ian livingstone and steve jackson , is now unrecorded on all major podcast political program .

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One straightaway short letter about this sequence : there were some technological difficultness with the transcription political platform that stand for Steve had worry join us , though he did get there finally , and that ensue in some left over audio bug afterwards on .

There ’s nothing I can do about them I ’m afraid , but apologia all the same .

See you next metre !